http://anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#05354818-8580-453d-880b-26a2139ff6f3 Interesting note: In my language,(Potawatomi) the word for rib is the same as for shield. Sat, 16 May 2009 12:09:45 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#05354818-8580-453d-880b-26a2139ff6f3 Pequamo 2009-05-16T12:09:45Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#61213d16-8576-4e1a-b1fa-c19134a55c1a The reason I brought up the shield in the first place, is that it seem to me to be the first weapon that could only be used by man against other men. Once you have shields, you have war. It could were war first got it's start. Patrick Sat, 16 May 2009 05:54:31 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#61213d16-8576-4e1a-b1fa-c19134a55c1a Patrick 2009-05-16T05:54:31Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#703792c0-597f-43a2-a107-2e7c2bb26597 >That's always my first thought when coming upon any inexplicable scene involving metal implements and scraped bone. Also notice how the critters that bust open bones and dig out the marrow couldn't possibly know anything about anatomy (since only humans know anatomy), and yet they always seem to go straight for the femurs where the only good marrow is in adult humans. Maybe they could smell it right through the other tissue? Thu, 14 May 2009 16:16:13 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#703792c0-597f-43a2-a107-2e7c2bb26597 Orangeboxman 2009-05-14T16:16:13Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#7030ddd2-03cf-4725-8995-71a27bbf10ec You guys must be fun to garden with!!!!!!!!!!! Patrick Mon, 04 May 2009 21:58:03 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#7030ddd2-03cf-4725-8995-71a27bbf10ec Patrick 2009-05-04T21:58:03Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#d4e76d0f-8cfb-419f-aede-c75b0cc7df16 >>'what a bizarre gardening accident'. HEE!!! That's always my first thought when coming upon any inexplicable scene involving metal implements and scraped bone. Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:40 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#d4e76d0f-8cfb-419f-aede-c75b0cc7df16 Shannon 2009-04-30T19:07:40Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#acf1beaa-57c6-47a9-9545-3d1c175fca69 But you know how it is. If anyone found a dozen of the oversized bowls interior leather-strapped to the left forearms of dozen skeletons in a single site, with everything violently scraped and interpenetrated by pole-shaped cutting tools, still grasped in the bones of right hands, the first thought will always be 'what a bizarre gardening accident'... unless, of course, the decedents are believed to have been related to modern Europeans... Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:18:38 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#acf1beaa-57c6-47a9-9545-3d1c175fca69 Orangeboxman 2009-04-30T15:18:38Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#42ec01e0-e16e-49f9-9946-48c401b9718d OBMO, flat, wooden and full of knife-marks could as easily be describing a vigorously-used dinner table. What separates that from a shield? A handle? a nice iconic image painted on it? Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:42:27 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#42ec01e0-e16e-49f9-9946-48c401b9718d Shannon 2009-04-29T00:42:27Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#91e41f12-f848-4d7d-bf31-3aadf24bc0c6 Ok, I can see that it could be hard to tell just what is a shield. Patrick Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:16:27 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#91e41f12-f848-4d7d-bf31-3aadf24bc0c6 Patrick 2009-04-28T22:16:27Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#7529f606-001f-4b76-a9f5-9be7575e83ac That depends on who you ask. Even if they have a diagram on the back showing exactly how to use them and are penetrated with numerous pointy wood, flint and metal objects, there are lots of people who want us to believe they were really some other kind of tool for completely peaceful applications. Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:50:56 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#7529f606-001f-4b76-a9f5-9be7575e83ac Orangeboxman 2009-04-28T15:50:56Z http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#e4edc431-07a8-4e24-b7ed-e4f85235e92e Does anyone know, where and when the first shields were made? Patrick Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:16:49 GMT http://Anthropologyclub.tribe.net/thread/3bd95148-1a9d-469f-b2f5-22d433f83bb1#e4edc431-07a8-4e24-b7ed-e4f85235e92e Patrick 2009-04-27T23:16:49Z